“Trumpeting EBITDA is a particularly pernicious practice. Doing so implies that depreciation is not truly an expense, given that it is a “non-cash” charge. That’s nonsense. In truth, depreciation is a particularly unattractive expense because the cash outlay it represents is paid upfront, before the asset acquired has delivered any benefits to the business. Imagine, if you will, that at the beginning of this year a company paid all of its employees for the next ten years of their service. In the following nine years, compensation would be a “non-cash” expense- a reduction of a pre paid compensation asset established this year. Would anyone care to argue that the recording of the expense in years two through ten would be simply a bookkeeping formality?”-wrote Warren Buffett
PSU Banks Zindabad
Must be real bad when even the foreigners say NO to debt issues of Reliance Communications & Lodha builders. PSU Banks zindabad.
— R. Balakrishnan (@BalakrishnanR) December 3, 2014
Attended the AVCJ Private Equity Conference today as well
Here were the key takeaways:
Rajesh Srivastava,Chairman & MD Rabo Equity Advisors
- Can vouch things are changing for the better in government
- Earlier, has to answer “Why India” to foreign investors.Now this Q is no longer being asked
Srinath Srinivasan,CEO,Oman India Joint Investment Fund
- Investee companies still to benefit from change in government
- Benefits will trickle down in 18-24 months
- Can confidently say that the heart of the government is in the right place
Mohit Ralhan,Managing Partner,TIW Private Equity
- 2 fundamental changes in India
- Real interest rates in India are now positive
- Cash is balance sheets of large companies are greater than that in 2007
- This can act as a spur to savings and capex cycle
- Promoters don’t give illiquidity discount in India
- Prefer share repurchases as an exit option
Ruby Arya,Vice-Chairman & Director,Milestone Capital Advisors
- Real estate can give 2x returns not multibaggers
- On the flip side, unlikely investors will lose money in real estate unlike equity
- 14 Billion US $ has come in real estate via PE
- Easier to exit in Real Estate
Sanjay Kukreja,MD,ChrysCapital
- 47 exits since inception
- Exits possible only in a few sectors where liquidity exists
- Financial Services
- Pharma
- Business Services etc
- Exits v difficult in other sectors such as
- Power
- Infra
- Manufacturing etc
Ameera Shah,MD & CEO,Metropolis Healthcare
- Most PE firms can’t add value in terms of business growth and profit margins
- Can add value in
- Corporate Governance
- Data Analytics
- Dislike the following about PE firms
- Unable to state clearly how they are different from others
- Unable to state clearly if their returns are coming at entrepreneur’s cost
- Unwilling to put in the same effort/time for their smaller ticket investments as compared to their bigger investments
Pramod Bhasin,Founder & Vice-Chairman Genpact
- PE firms can help in the following areas:
- Board Formation
- Compensation Practices
- Strategy
- Connecting with potential clients
- Advice for PE firms
- Get operational expertise
- Stay in for the long term-don’t exit early
Sanjay Aga,Director,Mahindra Logistics
- PE firms in India have little operational expertise
- Hence unable to identify which companies/sectors can do well
- Hence indulge in “herd like” momentum investiing
Nupur Garg,Regional Lead-PE Funds,IFC
- Performance of Indian PE has been poor as compared to China
- As per Cambridge Associates.
- Over 10 year period,Indian PE funds have returned 12% Gross IRR while China returned 24% Gross IRR
- Over 5 year period,Indian PE funds have returned 5% Gross IRR while China returned 25.5% Gross IRR
- Over 3 year period,Indian PE funds have returned -2.9% Gross IRR while China returned 14% Gross IRR
Attended the AVCJ Private Equity Conference yesterday
Here were the key takeaways:
Dr.Samiran Chakraborty,MD,Global Research,Standard Chartered
- Rupee is undervalued by at least 10%
- Growth recovery in India is 6-12 months away
- Inflation will be lower next year-expect a 50-100 bps rate cut next year
- Three stabilities-Macro,Economic and Currency-are coming together for India
- 2015 is a year for India to lose-turnaround year for India
Sanjay Nayar,CEO,KKR India
- 30$-40$ Billion of exits are pending in India
- Reasons why PE in India are struggling
- Poor Macro-Political uncertainty,currency volatility etc
- Poor Micro-Management etc
- Overpaid for assets
- Much lesser influence on management
- Lack of exits
Shankar Narayanan,MD,The Carlyle Group
- In India, What you see is not what you get
- Don’t invest in turnarounds as don’t believe toads can become princes
- Two attributes to watch in an entreprenur
- Drive/Hunger to succeed
- Integrity
- With respect to how he treats you as a partner
- With respect to laws etc
Gopal Jain,Managing Partner,Gaja Capital
- Dislike politicians.Don’t rely on them for doing the right thing
- Focus on defensive demand, not discretionary demand
- 90% of capital in PE in India is from global investors
- Obsession with promoters is going away
- Good promoters are in short supply and they know that
Renuka Ramnath,Founder & CEO,Multiples Alternate Asset Management
- By 2020,India will be a $ 4 Trillion economy
- The PE industry will be around 100 Billion $
- Expect reverse flow of capital from listed to unlisted via delisting/demerger and M&A
- Expect more of secondaries going forward
Peter Casey,Executive Chairman,Claddagh Resources
- Commandments for Entrepreneurs
- Get your loved ones on board
- Listen to your inner voice and the messages the Universe is sending you
- Don’t fear failure
- Get a Mentor
- Prepare to fail, because there is a good chance you will.Leave a little fuel in your tank
- Do the right thing,don’t take shortcuts
- Discipline is the horse that you have to ride
Niren Shah,MD,Norwest Venture Partners
- Betting on Internet and Mobile in India
- For an online classifieds investment,70% of ads now come from Mobile
- Never sell anybody a lemon because they will not do business with you again
Pradeep Tagare,Director,Intel Capital India
- Indian startup ecosystem is still evolving
- Exits are almost non-existent
- It takes luck to be a good VC in India
Linkfest:December 03,2014
Some stuff I am reading today morning:
How Gurgaon was built (Mint)
Debt MFs turn attractive (BS)
Shome panel wants govt to tax you on cash withdrawal (FE)
The mother of all bull markets (Prashant)
What is lifestyle creep? (Subramoney)
Beat the average investor by not trying to beat the market (PragCap)
3 simple steps to improve cognitive performance (TraderFeed)
Russian for the exits (WSJ)
Once again, the gold narrative fails (BigPicture)
Central banks likely to stay easy in 2015 (Bloomberg)